New Direction

More teams lead to prep football titles meaning less

Coming through high school in the late 1990s, high school football seasons were divided into two parts. There was the regular season where most of the opponents were familiar league foes. Then there was the playoffs. I went to high school in southeastern North Carolina and that usually meant you would see an unfamiliar team. It might be from across the state or a school that is two hours away and rarely makes the pre-conference schedule in September.

Well, the playoffs have expanded. There are now eight state titles instead of four, meaning more teams will be playing in the postseason. This obviously does not benefit the student-athletes since their 1-10 team can have a chance to win the state title.

I also see a lot less cross-state matchups. Schools in the same conference are either facing each other early or have a good chance to do it later in the playoffs. The allure of the playoffs is that two teams who don't normally play each other have to play to see who progresses to the title. There seems to be a challenge in that.

It looks like South Carolina has also started to award more state titles in football, too. The Palmetto State previously had the Big 16 where the state's 16 largest schools would vie for a title. The new addition, at least to me, is the splitting of the 1A classification into two divisions.

If a state is going to let more people into the playoffs, it needs to find a way to integrate all the teams and still award fewer titles. For example, if there are two titles in 2A, take one of those away. Merge the two brackets and let the teams play until there is one champion awarded.

I don't know the best way to do that, but, I do know once there are fewer titles every game will have more meaning.

Colleges rush to add football and that means more fees

Georgia State in Atlanta is the latest school to add football and the team is scheduled to kick off its season in 2010.
The school is expected to play in the Colonial Athletic Association along with Old Dominion University in Norfolk, Va. The Monarchs kick off their inaugural season this fall.
But, as the New York Times article states, there are some disadvantages to adding the sport. Georgia State's student fess increased by $85 a semester.
UNC Charlotte is also adding football and the school faces a significant increase in student fees.
Both Georgia State and Charlotte are in metropolitan areas with multiple professional and amateur teams. Both teams would need to have significant support in their communities and that's a tall task for new programs. For the 49ers, they're in Atlantic Coast Conference territory and share the Queen City with the National Football League's Carolina Panthers.
I think it will be wise for both schools to stay in the Football Championship Subdivision (formerly Div. I-AA). The schools might receive more exposure, but they will spend more money, too.
If a school makes the move to the top division too early it will be nothing more than a glorified practice squad and whipping boy for one of the "major" schools to play in the first couple of weeks of the year.
Football is a great sport, however, I don't think it's a magic cure for any school's problems.

  

Guilford College goes to NCAA Div. III Final Four

A story about the Guilford College men's basketball team's trip to the NCAA Division III Final Four this weekend in Salem, Va. Outside of the Triad, there probably won't be a lot of attention given to the Quakers. That's not a problem for me.
Division III athletes don't have scholarships, and many won't play another possession of organized basketball after the last whistle sounds.
These athletes are truly in it because of their love for their sport and school.

 

Clemson beats Florida State for the first time

Oh, man, do I ever remember this one. James Robert Kennedy, otherwise known as "Radio" got to run down the hill at Memorial Stadium. It was also the first time that Clemson defeated Florida State, at least since they joined the ACC. 



Article published: Nov 9, 2003
Tigers crash party
Clemson ruins Bowden’s birthday, national title hopes

By BEN LEDBETTER
Item Sports Writer

CLEMSON — It may have been Florida State head football coach Bobby Bowden’s 74th birthday Saturday, but his son Tommy Bowden got the gift.

That night at Clemson’s Memorial Stadium, the goalposts came down and Tigers fans rushed the field as Clemson upset the No.3 Seminoles before a crowd of more than 81,000. It was the first time in five tries that Tommy Bowden’s Tigers, who improve to 6-4 overall and 4-3 in Atlantic Coast Conference action, have beaten Florida State, which drops to 8-2 overall and 6-1 in the conference.

Clemson had the Seminoles shut out through the first half and kept them out of the end zone with the exception of a fourth-quarter 71-yard touchdown pass from reserve quarterback Fabian Walker to wide receiver Chauncey Stovall.

For as under the gun as he has been, especially since the Tigers lost 45-17 at Wake Forest last week, Tommy Bowden said Saturday’s win was not for him, but for the players and for the school itself.

“I thought our players looked at the challenge after the Wake Forest game,” the younger Bowden said.

Bobby Bowden, who joked that Tommy Bowden’s job “should probably be good for about another five days,” declared that Clemson’s win was genuine.

“I told him I’m happy for him, but I’m not happy for us,” Bobby Bowden said. “I tried not to assist him in any way. You knew that something like this was coming sooner or later, but this was very unlikely tonight. It was thorough (Clemson’s win) and it wasn’t even close.”

Clemson quarterback Charlie Whitehurst completed 17 of 27 passes for 272 yards and one touchdown and threw one interception. He also rushed for a TD.

Saturday’s win was especially good for Clemson’s starting signal caller following last week’s blowout loss against the Deacons and the outside chatter about his head coach’s career.

“Our backs against the wall, we get blown out last week, we come out and play close to perfect,” Whitehurst said. “We really took it to them.”

With Florida State coming off a 37-0 win over Notre Dame and the Tigers losing last week, Saturday’s game looked like the perfect opportunity to pull off an upset at least according to Whitehurst.

“You get blown out; I don’t know if they tooks us lightly or not,” Whitehurst said. “They won pretty good and we lost pretty good. So, I guess the stage was set. We had them at home. The fans we’re behind us. I guess it just worked out for us.”

While he said he did not know if the win was brought on because of Tommy Bowden being on the hot seat this year, something was inside the Tigers Saturday, Whitehurst said.

“There wasn’t really anything said,” Whitehurst said. “Everybody kind of felt it. I don’t know if this win was for him, but something was inside us. Something made us go out and play the way we did. Maybe it was for him.”

Clemson took a 13-0 lead into the locker room at the half. The Seminoles were able to get within field-goal range in the third quarter, but a 40-yard field goal attempt by Xavier Beitia at the 11:38 mark of the third quarter went wide left.

Clemson continued to piece together a shutout when Hunt booted a 32-yard field goal with 6:39 left in the third period to put the Tigers up 16-0. Beitia made good on his next field goal attempt of 46 yards to give the Seminoles a 16-3 lead with 3:25 left in the third.

Derrick Hamilton extended the Tigers’ lead to 23-3 when he caught a pass from Whitehurst and ran to the end zone on a 58-yard pass play at the 1:23 mark of the third quarter.

Hamilton finished with six catches for 123 yards and one touchdown.

The Tigers added another three points when Hunt kicked a 37-yard field goal with 8:31 left in the game to make it 26-3. Only Walker’s bomb to Stovall that made it 26-10 kept the game from being a complete rout in favor of the Tigers.

Whitehurst got the Tigers’ first touchdown of the game in the first half. With the Tigers at the FSU 1-yard line, he scrambled back to the FSU 10, then ran back to the left and dived into the end zone with 15 seconds left in the half to give the Tigers a 13-0 lead. He aided that drive when he completed a 51-yard pass to Kevin Youngblood with 1:17 left in the half.

Clemson got on the board early when Hunt kicked a 23-yard field goal with 8:25 left in the first quarter for an early 3-0 lead over the Seminoles. The Tigers were able to get to the Florida State 6, but after Whitehurst was unable to complete a pass to Youngblood in the end zone, Clemson went for a 23-yard field goal from Hunt.

After reaching the Seminoles’ 18-yard line on its next drive, Clemson again settled for a Hunt field goal, this time one for 35 yards as the Tigers went up by six with four seconds off the clock in the second quarter.

FSU’s standout rusher Greg Jones, a Battery Creek High graduate, was held to 12 yards on seven carries.

Saturday’s win over the Seminoles was the highest-ranked team Clemson has defeated and for the Tigers’ head coach, it may have been his, too.

“I think it’s probably the highest ranked team I’ve ever defeated myself,” Tommy Bowden said. “To beat my father, the winningest coach in college football, obviously they’re going to be well-coached.”

Gamecocks-Silver Foxes game story

Gamecocks finish 2nd in region with 3-2 win over Dutch Fork

By BEN LEDBETTER
Item Sports Writer

   Sumter took second place in Region V-4A with a 3-2 defeat of Dutch Fork’s baseball team Friday at Sumter High School.
   With the win, Sumter improves to 13-7 overall and 7-3 in the region while the Silver Foxes drop to 12-8 and 6-4. It also means the Gamecocks will have at least one more game at home.
   Irmo, which beat the Gamecocks 10-5 Thursday night, finished first in the region and will have the top playoff spot, while Dutch Fork finished third and Airport fourth.
   “We couldn’t be first in the region so the next best thing to that is second,” Sumter coach Brooks Shumake said. “We were able to accomplish that tonight. I’m proud of them.”
   The Gamecocks gave their coach reason to be proud in the bottom of the seventh inning with the score tied 2-2.
   Brooks Sinquefield, Sumter’s starting pitcher, led off hit a double to right centerfield. Justin Boykin, his courtesy runner, then stole third. Kevin Buckner then laced a base hit to centerfield, which scored Boykin for the winning run.

PREP SCHEDULE TODAY Varsity Baseball Laurence Manning in Hawaiian Tropic Tournament, TBA Varsity Golf Sumter in Palmetto High School Championship (Myrtle Beach), TBA Varsity Track and Field Sumter in Vance Relay (Charlotte), 9 a.m.

   Shumake said there was no big plans behind the game’s last play.
   “They threw him a fastball and he gets a base hit. That’s baseball,” he said. “There wasn’t any big-time strategy there.”
   Dutch Fork coach Al Berry agreed.
   “They just got the lead-off guy on and did a good job going with the pitch,” Berry said. “They did a good job scoring when they had to. It was all Sumter, not anything we could do.”
   Sumter first scored in an identical situation in the second inning. Buckner brought in courtesy runner Boykin, who was running for Sinquefield, on a single. Again like the seventh-inning situation, Sinquefield reached base with a double.
   After Buckner singled, Jon Caneda singled to bring Buckner home to give the Gamecocks a 2-0 lead.
   Dutch Fork led off the top of the fourth inning with a solo home run over the rightfield wall by Matt Arnold to cut the Sumter lead to 2-1.
   The Silver Foxes tied the game at two when Andrew Eckenbrecht, who reached base on a single and later stole second, scored on a single by Derek Burgess.
   Sinquefield got the complete-game win for the Gamecocks, holding the Silver Foxes to four hits and striking out five. Reid Danielson took the loss for Dutch Fork.
   Shumake said he will try to use Friday’s win as momentum with the playoffs still ahead.
   “Playoffs is a whole other season,” he said. “We’ll come out and work out Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday and prepare ourselves. We’ll do a lot of review and a lot of fundamental work over all the phases of the game.”
   Shumake said he plans to have his team work on hitting and base running before the postseason.
   Sumter finished last season one game away from playing for the lower state title when Stratford defeated the Gamecocks in Goose Creek. With Sumter starting off the postseason at home for a change, Shumake said he expects a little more from his team this season.
   “Our guys have really risen to the occasion when playoff time comes around,” he said. “I expect our team, this year, will come out and battle every single night for a win in the playoffs.”

Published: Saturday, April 19, 2003

 

S.C. State Fair and Carolina-Kentucky football

State fair football games are always big. I've done college games in both Carolinas during state fairs, and they always tend to be a big draw. They also tend to be a big headache if you're looking for good parking.

Article published: Oct 8, 2003
Gamecocks gear up for showdown
By BEN LEDBETTER
Item Sports Writer

COLUMBIA -- The South Carolina State Fair won't be the only attraction in Columbia Thursday night. Right across George Rogers Boulevard, Williams-Brice Stadium will be full as South Carolina plays host to Kentucky at 7:45 p.m.

For Carolina coach Lou Holtz, playing on those days is a matter of helping out the Southeastern Conference.

"Some schools refuse to play Thursday night," Holtz said. "My feeling is, we're a member of the conference, we should do everything we can to accommodate the conference."

While he can figure out what he's going to do with the team when they travel to play Arkansas on Thursday, Nov.6, keeping a handle on his players' activities for a Thursday night home game will be more difficult.

"This is the first time I've played a Thursday game at home. It's not hard to know what to do with them when we're at Arkansas on Thursday night. But here, it's a little bit different." One thing's for certain, while the Gamecocks will be able to miss classes on Thursday, they will have to be there Friday.

"They won't go to class on Thursday," Holtz said. "We're still trying to figure out what we're trying to do with them.

"They'll be in class Friday, absolutely."

Kentucky coach Rich Brooks sees no disadvantage in playing the game against USC Thursday.

"I don't think there's any reason to not do that (play on Thursday), especially because both South Carolina and us had an off week," Brooks said. "It would be a lot more difficult if we were coming off a Saturday game. That would be a very rough turnaround. I think there are a lot more positives than negatives in this particular game for our program."

FRIENDS IN HIGH PLACES
There's more to Thursday games than accommodating the SEC, according to Holtz. One thing a nationally-televised game can do is help recruiting, especially since Holtz counts current ESPN commentator and former football coach Lee Corso as a friend.

"I think it's a good recruiting tool," Holtz said. "You're on TV. As long as Lee Corso continues to live in Orlando (Fla.), where I have a home, and as long as we continue to be good friends, it can be a good recruiting tool."

CAPERS IMPRESSIVE
While Holtz has said this week that the defense needs to improve, he praised the play of redshirt junior defensive end Jason Capers.

For the year, Capers has 12 total tackles, just five less than his total last season. In the Georgia game Sept.13, Capers had four tackles and his first career fumble recovery. He had one solo tackle and two assists, including a tackle for loss in the 23-20 overtime loss to Tennessee.

"Well, he's always been a pretty good athlete," Holtz said. "He's a little bit bigger, stronger, a little bit (more) mature and very good fundamentally now."

Capers' improvement is a direct contrast to Carolina's lack of defensive development, according to Holtz.

"That's what concerns me defensively," Holtz said. "Defensively, we're not getting any better fundamentally. Jason Capers really has. He's been an excellent athlete since he came out of high school. He is definitely one of our best 11 (defensive) football players right now."

JUST LIKE GOLF
Kentucky leads the SEC in red zone offense, having scored 14 of 15 times inside the opponent's 20-yard line, including 13 touchdowns.

South Carolina is second to last, one place ahead of league cellar-dweller Vanderbilt. The Gamecocks have been successful 12 of 17 times in the red zone, including 10 touchdowns.

Holtz compared reaching the red zone to playing golf. "If you reach a par 5 in two and 5-putt it, you have a double bogey," Holtz said. "Red zone offense is the same as your short game on a par 5. If you get down there and come away with nothing, you might as well not have gotten there. You could have punted it and given it to them on the 20. For us, we could have punted it from their 45 and got it to their 20."

More from Nike Nationals

Baird 8th in shot put at Nike Nationals

By Ben Ledbetter
Special to Loudoun Prep Sports

GREENSBORO, N.C. (June 21, 2008) – Natalie Baird is between her senior season at Park View High School and her freshman year at William and Mary and this recent grad sees this weekend’s Nike Outdoor Nationals at N.C. A&T State University as another opportunity to excel.

“I’ve got nothing to lose, just go out there and do my best,” Baird said after Friday’s shot put. Baird threw 43 feet, seven and a half inches, which was good enough for eighth place. That mark was near her average, she said.

However, the shot put can be fun.

“It’s just fun to do,” Baird said. “I like it when it comes out of my hand and my fingers snap. When that happens, I’m happy.”

Becky O'Brien of Cumberland, Maine won the shotput with a throw of 52-1 3/4.
Baird will compete in the hammer throw and discus on Saturday.

Baird, who earned seven AA state titles in the discus and shot put and led the Patriots to consecutive state titles, will be competing in the USA Youth Outdoor Track and Field Championships at UNC Charlotte on June 24-29.

Baird can't wait to start classes at William & Mary and join the track and field team.

“I liked everything,” she said about the Williamsburg school. “I liked the school’s academics. I liked coach (Dan) Stimson and the other athletes are really fun to be around.”

Nike Nationals dispatches

I was at the Nike Outdoor Nationals last summer following an athlete from Park View High School in Sterling, Va. I was doing this for Loudoun Prep Sports, a Web site in Loudoun County Virginia that covers prep sports.

Baird excels at Nike Nationals
By Ben Ledbetter
Special to Loudoun Prep Sports

GREENSBORO, N.C. (June 22, 2008) – Park View High School graduate Natalie Baird ended the Nike Outdoor Nationals at N.C. A&T State University with three top 10 finishes.

On Saturday, she placed third in the discus with a throw of 152-03 and seventh in the hammer throw with a mark of 140-5. She finished eighth in the shot put Friday with a mark of 43-07.25.

To hone her technique in the discus she had recently started watching old footage of Greek discus thrower Anastasia Kelesidou. Baird said she has similarities with Kelesidou’s style, which involves shifting her weight to the left and leaning.

Although the rising freshman at William & Mary finished third in the discus, three of her six throws were fouls.

“The discus, it wasn’t one of my best days,” Baird said. “You can’t have your best day every day.”

Aslynn Halvorson of Charlotte won the discus with a throw of 154-2.

Baird is a newcomer to the hammer, having taken up the event about a year ago.

“I really actually started practicing the hammer in the fall,” she said. “I did meets with the Potomac Valley Track Club. They had the hammer and they said I should try it.”

Allison Horner of Marietta, Ga. won the hammer with a throw of 177-2.
For Baird, the hammer is not just an average throwing event.

“I like how you’re balancing against the ball,” she said. “It’s kind of like you have to work with it. You just can’t throw it.”

With the three high finishes this weekend, Baird feels she’s performing well and likes the newness of the hammer.

“I feel like I’m consistent,” Baird said about her performance at the meet. “The hammer, I’m excited about it because it’s a new thing. I’m ready to go to it when I go to college.”

Terriers-Bulldogs football game

Despite the score, the game had some high moments like The Citadel and Wofford both being at the top of the Southern Conference. Also, Wofford coach Mike Ayers did his post-game interviews right on the field. Now, that's living!

Article published: Nov 2, 2003
Wofford blasts Citadel

By BEN LEDBETTER
Item Sports Writer

CHARLESTON -- The top two football teams in the Southern Conference may have played Saturday before a crowd of 20,863 at Johnson Hagood Stadium, but instead of a close battle, Wofford handily defeated The Citadel 42-16.

With the win, the Terriers, 8-1 overall and 5-0 in the SoCon, clinched a share of the conference title. The Terriers, ranked fifth in the country among NCAA Division I-AA schools, can win it outright with one win in their final two games against East Tennessee State and Furman.

In a first half that had both teams commit two fumbles and throw three interceptions, the Terriers were able to build a slim 5-point lead that grew considerably in the second half.

“We struggled a little bit early,” Wofford coach Mike Ayers said. “We played such great defense early. We created some things in the second half and that was critical.”

What the Terriers created in the third quarter was 28 points. The Terriers also kept the Bulldogs, ranked No.25, out of the end zone. They made The Citadel settle for three field goals by Travis Zobel until Jermaine Anderson caught a 59-yard touchdown pass from quarterback Willie Simmons.

“All of a sudden, we get 14 more on them and after that we kind of got in sync from an offensive standpoint,” Ayers said.

In the third quarter, the Terriers put some distance between themselves and The Citadel quickly. Wofford free safety Matt Nelson gave Simmons his second interception when he picked off a pass and ran it back 54 yards for a touchdown to put the Terriers up 21-9 with 13:55 left in the third quarter.

Wofford scored again when standout fullback J.R. McNair made a 30-yard touchdown run at the 12:52 mark, and that was followed about two minutes later with a 9-yard touchdown run by Nelson which put the Terriers up 35-9.

Following a 28-yard run by Ben Mugin, McNair scored again, this time on a 2-yard run with 3:19 left in the third.

For The Citadel head coach Ellis Johnson, whose team drops to 5-4 and 4-2, Wofford’s third quarter is what doomed the Bulldogs.

“I’m so disappointed,” Johnson said. “Our players deserve a lot of credit for creating this environment that was here today. I’m really disappointed in all of them that they didn’t take advantage of it and have a little bit more fun with it.

“It’s just disappointing when you can get things cranked up around here, but you just let it slip out of your hands,” Johnson said of the 4-game winning streak his team brought into the game.

One thing that hurt the Bulldogs was turnovers. The Bulldogs threw three interceptions and also lost three fumbles.

“You’ve got to give Wofford credit,” Johnson said. “They played very well today. We had our opportunities and we just gave the thing away at one point in the game, especially in the third quarter. You just can’t turn the ball over like that against a good football team.”

McNair paced the Terriers with two touchdowns and 83 rushing yards on 14 carries.

For McNair, having a focus helped his team pull out the win.

“Once again our team came out and we played as brothers,” McNair said. “We came out with a focus and we knew exactly what we we’re going to do.”

The Terriers had a great start on their second series when Ben Whitney recovered a fumble at The Citadel 19 -yard line. Four plays later, quarterback Jeff Zolman ran in from one yard out to give the Terriers a 7-0 lead with 7:46 left in the first quarter.

Wofford looked like it would score again, but Marcus Cohen picked off a Zoalman pass and ran 66 yards to give the Bulldogs the ball at the Terriers 23. The Bulldogs were eventually able to get close enough for Zobel to kick a 32-yard field goal that cut the lead to 7-3 with 1:52 left in the opening period.

The Terriers struck again with six seconds gone in the second quarter on Kevious Johnson’s 26-yard touchdown run to make it 14-3.

The Bulldogs were able to get back in the game with a couple of field goals by Zoebel - a 28-yarder and a 35-yarder. They cut the Terriers’ lead to 14-9.

With the Bulldogs still in the game at the half, Ayers told his team that victory was there if it would just execute.

“We didn’t get into a yelling match or anything like that,” Ayers said. “The thing we told them was, ‘Everything is there for us if we’ll execute.’ “
 

Another one from the vault

Benedict's Hendrick happy in Columbia

By BEN LEDBETTER
Item Sports Writer

John Hendrick had been an assistant football coach on the NCAA Division I level during most of his 23 years as a coach. Last year, however, he led his own team for the first time.

It wasn’t on the DI level though. Hendrick took over Benedict College’s football program, which was revived in 1997. The Tigers are a member of the Division II Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Conference.

And while Benedict doesn’t get the media exposure DI schools get, Hendrick couldn’t be happier.

“I’ve had more fun working this job than I ever have,” Hendrick said. “This is my 23rd year of coaching. I’ve never had this much fun coaching. It’s more of a craftsman’s type of coaching.”

Hendrick was in Sumter Saturday to speak at the #1 Jesus Annual Basketball Banquet at Jehovah Missonary Baptist Church’s M.H. Newton Family Life Enrichment Center.

Since Hendrick does not have to deal as much with alumni, athletic boosters and highly-publicized players, that leaves more time for coaching.

“I don’t really worry about the alumni, alumni dollars, as many prima donna players, all those sorts of things, and TV money,” he said. “That’s something I don’t have to worry about. I was really tired of that working in Division I.”

The Tigers finished 6-5 overall and 4-4 in the SIAC in Hendrick’s first year. That was an improvement from 2002’s 2-9 season.

Benedict will not have to wait long to see if it will be as good or better than last year as it will open the 2004 season with Stillman College on Aug. 28, then South Carolina State the next week in the Palmetto Capital City Classic at Williams-Brice Stadium.

“We’ll know how good of a football team we are right away, which is fine with me,” Hendrick said. “The biggest thing to me is you want to play against good competition. I’m looking forward to it. I think we have the chance to be a good football team.”

The conference schedule should also provide tough opponents as Albany State and Fort Valley State are expected to be the teams to beat, Hendrick said. He also expects Tuskeegee to do well.

Albany State finished first last year in the SIAC with a 7-1 mark and was 10-2 overall. Fort Valley State finished third at 5-3 and 7-4. Tuskeegee and the Tigers both had a 4-4 league mark, with Tuskeegee finishing 5-6 overall.

Although Benedict has 17 starters coming back this season, one of Hendrick’s problems will be depth.

“The biggest problem that we have more than anything is we don’t have a lot of depth right now,” he said. “We’re going to depend on a lot of really young people to be the backups. Hopefully they’ll catch on really quick.”

Benedict had three former Sumter High players on the team last year — defensive tackle Nick Brockington, wide receiver Herbert Rembert and defensive back Tywain Titus. Hendrick is happy with the players he has been able to bring in his first two years.

“We had a great recruiting year. Actually we had two great recruiting years in a row, even though the first one was abbreviated. This year we signed some really good players from the state of South Carolina and other places. I’m hoping some of them can come in and help us.”

Defense certainly helped the Tigers last year. They were second in the conference in total defense, yielding 260.6 yards a game. Benedict was second to Albany State in the category.

The Tigers ranked near the bottom in many SIAC offensive categories and were third-to-last in total offense, with 250.5 yards per game.

If Benedict can get the offense running like the defense, Hendrick thinks his team will be fine.

“I think we’ll be a more productive offense,” he said. “If we can get some production on offense, we’ll be pretty good.”

Published: May 9, 2004